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HomeMy WebLinkAboutC.054.93008_1338 (2)891 i gallons a day to 150,000 gallons a day, which I have recently found out that that proposal has been reduced to 80,000 gallons a day. The recommendations from the Mooresville office was that we would concur with the issuance or modification of the existing permit to the expanded volume, provided our technical services in Raleigh deem that the receiving waters could assimilate that particular amount of waste water. POPE: You made reference to some technical services people. Are those people also in the same department of natural resources? PARKER: They are in the same department; they are located in our Raleigh Office. POPE: Have they made that determination? PARKER: I'm not exactly sure. I haven't seen what's called a waste load allocation, which is their final report, once the determination has been made. I have not seen a copy come through our office; however, I can't be sure that it hasn't already been made. The information that we have recently gotten from our division director, however, has indicated that the proposal that John Crosland has submitted for using the existing effluent line to pipe the effluent out is not going to be satisfactory, that they will have to move that line a given amount of distance further out into the channel of the lake. Our director has not told the regional office how far that particular distance would be; however, he's left it up to John Crosland to resubmit a proposal to us, and we will evaluate the proposal. The other alternative they would have would be possibly connection onto the Charlotte/Mecklen- burg Utility Department, which is in another county. I don't know if that's feasible or not, based on their standpoint. POPE: Let me see if I understand what you've just said. The division director has made a preliminary determination that unless the discharge pipe is extended further in the lake he would not approve the granting of the permit. PARKER: Well, this not to say that they are not going to get the permit. They have a MPS permit now. The expansion may not be or will be tentatively not approved until their submittal showing the modified discharge pipe location has been submitted and approved by us. POPE: What is the criteria for determining that? PARKER: Well that particular decision has been made in Raleigh, and the information and criteria that made on that decision hasn't been relayed to me. I can't tell you exactly how that decision was made until I get further information. POPE: Mr. Parker, you have heard Mr. Lundy from our staff testify that there are computer models at twelve locations on the lake. Are you familiar with that? PARKER: Yes. That information is available in our technical services section in Raleigh, and that's what we call our modeling group, and those people are the ones that determine the limitations that are given to a certain facility that proposes a discharge, whether it be a lake or a stream or what have you. POPE: Is there a model in the area of this discharge? PARKER: Well, there is an existing model that was run on the existing facility for 10,000 gallons. As far as I know, as I stated earlier, I don't know if the model has been run on the proposed expansion yet. That information hasn't gotten down to our office yet. POPE: O.K. Maybe I don't understand what a model is. PARKER: Well, it's determining the limitations that would be contained in the permit. You know, the limitations that the facility would have to meet. POPE: When you say there have been models for twelve locations. Does that mean there are twelve discharge permits presently in the lake? PARKER: I don't know personally the exact number, because I don't work on every particular facility that is permitted on the lake. I would assume that there is probably near that figure, yes. POPE: So some kind of simulation or model would be done for each proposed discharge location? PARKER: That's correct. POPE: And do you have knowledge of whether that has been done for 80,000 gallon discharge at this site. PARKER: The only thing that I can assume, and it is an assumption at this point, is that a model maybe has been run, and that's the reason for the director's decision to ask that the discharge line be extended further out into the lake. That's the only assumption that I can make at this point. Since this information has come to me this morning, I don't have the complete details. POPE: What other information can you offer the commissioners that will help them in their decision?